Thursday, March 1, 2018

Gun Grabber Roundup: What the Hell is Trump Doing?

I voted for the man to build a wall not fucking fight the NRA.

“These are great people,” Trump said of the NRA during a bipartisan meeting with members of Congress about gun violence at the White House on Wednesday. “These are great patriots. They love our country.”

But Trump left no doubt as to who he thinks is in charge. “I'm the biggest fan of the Second Amendment. Many of you are. I'm a big fan of the NRA,” he said. “But I had lunch with them — with [NRA leaders] Wayne [LaPierre] and Chris [Cox] and David [Lehman] — on Sunday and said, ‘It's time.’ We got to stop this nonsense. It's time.”

At one point, he said members of Congress — including Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., whose bipartisan background checks bill he was praising — fear the NRA.

“I said, 'Fellas, we got to do something,'” Trump later added, telling lawmakers, “And they do have great power, I agree with that. They have great power over you people. They have less power over me. I don't need it. What do I need?”

It’s part of a delicate dance Trump is having with the gun rights group after the latest mass shooting — and a highly public campaign by friends and relatives of its 17 victims — has increased pressure for legislative action aimed at stopping such events in the future.

Trump is launching a charm offensive to try to bring the NRA along on new gun legislation while at the same time reserving the right move in a different direction. “There’s no bigger fan” of the NRA than he, the president told lawmakers. “But that doesn't mean we have to agree on everything.”

Democrats tried to woo Trump too. “We will get 60 votes on a bill that looks like the Manchin-Toomey compromise on background checks, Mr. President, if you support it,” said Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., who added, “But, Mr. President, it's going to have to be you that brings the Republicans to the table on this because, right now, the gun lobby would stop it in its tracks.”

“President Trump is showing great leadership on this issue by listening to various stakeholders and he wants to do something concrete and fact-based to protect school children,” said Republican strategist Ford O’Connell. “Because Donald Trump received the earliest presidential endorsement in NRA history, he can move the ball on this issue, but even he has his limits.”

Okay, not what I wanted from the guy I've been fighting for tooth and nailMister President, if the Democrats are praising your sagacious wisdom you are doing something wrong.

Their goal is confiscatory guncontrol and throwing you in prison.  If they are happy with what you are doing then you are doing it wrong.


I am beginning to think there has never been a more preventable mass shooting than Broward County.

It never fails.  When something is really screwed up you eventually find out that Obama had something to do with it.

In 2013, the year before Cruz entered high school, the Broward County school system scrapped and rewrote its discipline policy to make it much more difficult for administrators to suspend or expel problem students, or for campus police to arrest them for misdemeanors– including some of the crimes Cruz allegedly committed in the years and months leading up to the deadly Feb. 14 shooting at his Fort Lauderdale-area school.

To keep students in school and improve racial outcomes, Broward school Superintendent Robert W. Runcie – a Chicagoan and Harvard graduate with close ties to President Obama and his Education Department – signed an agreement with the county sheriff and other local jurisdictions to trade cops for counseling. Instead of the criminal justice system, students charged with various misdemeanors, including assault, were referred to counseling, which included participation in “healing circles,” obstacle courses and other “self-esteem building” exercises.

Asserting that minority students, in particular, were treated unfairly by traditional approaches to school discipline, Runcie’s goal was to slash arrests and ensure that students, no matter how delinquent, graduated without criminal records.

“The [achievement] gap becomes intensified in the school-to-prison pipeline, where black males are disproportionately represented,” he said at the time. “We’re not going to continue to arrest our kids,” he added. “Once you have an arrest record, it becomes difficult to get scholarships, get a job, or go into the military."

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel backed Runcie’s plan to diminish the authority of police in responding to campus crime. A November 2013 video shows him readily signing the district’s 16-page "collaborative agreement on school discipline,” which lists more than a dozen misdemeanors that can no longer be reported to police, along with five steps police must “exhaust” before even considering placing a student under arrest.

A repeat offender, Cruz benefited from the lax discipline policy, if not the counseling. Although he was disciplined for a string of offenses -- including assault, threatening teachers and carrying bullets in his backpack -- he was never taken into custody or even expelled. Instead, school authorities referred him to mandatory counseling or transferred him to alternative schools.

If Cruz had had the juvenile record he deserved, he would never have been allowed to legally buy a rifle.

Which is not to say that he wouldn't have managed it.  We are making the big assumption that the FBI would have done it's job and flagged him and they don't have a good record for that.  

Or that Cruz couldn't have bought a weapon illegally.  Still Progressive incompetence unquestionably greased the skids on this tragedy. 

And then of course blamed the NRA for their fuckup.


Uncle Max said...

I think he's playing them... but we'll see. Reminds me of the DACA crap. The press is having a field day with all of this, but actually, Trump has just put Congress in a box. And really, nothing will happen in Congress on gun-control in a election year. I can't imagine they actually want to address this... the Dems just want to 'use' it.. We'll see.

Yes, silver lining, I'm trying to be positive.

Ominous Cowherd said...

Trump has talked betrayal before, but he hasn't actually betrayed us yet. Go by the action, not the talk. That's a good rule with any politician.

Mocheirge said...

Trump's words in addition to the Dem tantrums have propelled the NRA's membership to new heights. If that wasn't his goal, you can be sure he's reassessing his method.

I hope this was sort of an "agree and amplify" gambit. By promoting gun control and seeing this reaction, Trump can justify walking back and changing position. Net result: NRA gains influence, no new gun control.